Tyrone van leyen

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  What do you say to someone you are seeing for the last time?

  by Bumble Bee in

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  i've been thinking about this alot tonite.

  what do i talk about with my uncle when i see him on wednesday?

  this will be the last time i see him alive.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  You must not have regrets after, but there's nothing to say really. The only thing you can do is offer comfort and show your love. These moments are precious and fleeting. A man that knows he's dieing has either made his peace, or is about to. Make sure you listen carefully to what he says, and try to be as comforting, gentle and understanding as you can be. This can be intense, but take comfort that he will no longer suffer and all things must pass. If there is something pressing, he will bring it up. It is his moment. The last words on his breath will not be wasted among loves ones. Good luck Bumble Bee. I know it must be difficult. My heart goes out to you.

  If he looks into your eyes, they will do most of the talking. Let it flow from your souls. Nows the time to forgive any wrongs. You can do this with your eyes too. Love speaks volumes.
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Thanks Cog! I'll do that. I think you are right. The older I get the more I see the way some peoples karma has gotten them. It is not only poetic justice, but you'd almost have to swear, it was meant to be.

  I agree, no one escapes pain, and I have seen many die, the way they live. Thats another topic though. A good one. All is not what it seems
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Thanks Cog. I wrote out a very long reply and deleted the whole thing. I find myself getting caught up in defending my position and its not about me. I just wanted to point out that some have a left out feeling in these threads because they have had their crowd dynamics altered by the goon squad. I'll save the rest for another thread. You make some good points about the younger kids too. Don't get me wrong I like to have fun too.
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

  1. jw
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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  In my opinion, the randomness and casuality of assemblies was not so random at all. It was more contolled than you think. Anyone with half a brain knew what was going on. All the young folks hung out in their little clicks and looked for dates or fun, after the mind numbing, all day lectures. You'd have to be blind not to have seen it. Or just turn your head as the elders do, and convince yourself that your son or daughter is a good Jw and find the guy who's really bad and a corrupting influence. It will attract limelight, noteriety, and finger pointing. Just what you want, when your horny teenage daughter or son is going to get themselves in trouble.

  Always remember elders. When your confronted with the facts. Take a deep breath, suck in your Aura, put on your best face, and point the finger at the scapegoat you have chosen to make an example of. Now thats Fun!
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  There were the haves and the have nots. People like me were used as scape goats when the big shakedown came,after Raymond Franz's escapades. I was in a vulnerble position because my folks didn't see fit to stand up for me. They regret it now, but it was people like me, that took the heat off your asses! I"m the one you want! It was me! I did it! Don't look over there, I'm the one that needs redemption! I am the guilty one.

  Oh,how they must have laughed inside ,thinking how clever and deceitful they were. It's not over yet, and the elders that are still alive,now fear me,as well as those that know,I know about their deeds. The abuse went on for so long,it almost became a running joke. When I finally disappeared, they found another sucker, who's father was a nobody. He was a great looking guy with a promising career as an international model. They told him to quit his ambitions, and sat him at the back of the Kngdumb hell for 15 years. I swear to God, know one to this day knows what he did wrong. My cong always looked for guys with promise, to be made an example of,but it especially helps when your father is shining their shoes like a good boy. He took the heat. No one else! I could write a bound volume of all the outra geuos shit this cong,with its elders,daughters, and sons were doing. We were just on the wrong side of the law is all. Thats the way it worked where I come from anyways.

  As if I give a shit that they are going to ignore me now. I missed graduations, weddings,funerals and life at large. I can't miss anymore,bring it on,and watch your asses, the next elder I meet, might be met with a fist,instead of a dialogue. All or nothing. Trust me,you elders don't want me around in your old age. You started it, and I'll finish it. The kind of fun you guys gave me,can only be equalled with a prison sentence or a graveyard.

  Dang here I go again. Must be havin one of those days. Sorry back to the "fu n times"at assemblies.

  To tie this back into the topic, fun just depends what side of the law your on, how deceiful you are, and who's shoes your shinin. Still I say, I'm the one you want, it was me. I demand immediate arrrest and a lengthly prison stay. It is my right as a citizen.
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  Did you have any fashion fads among your peers in your congregation?

  by Low-Key Lysmith in

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  i just remembered that for a while, among the young fellas in my congregation, that dusters (those tench coats that cowboys wear in australia) bacame popular.

  (i never owned one).

  of course, we did live in rural utah-an area that was stricken with a bad case of redneckery.

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  I was the first in my cong to try leather ties in the late 70's. I was counciled of course, until the natural inherent hippocracy of the brothers finally took over, and it became ok when it was no longer fashionable. I know some that got ear peircings, I didn't, and some in later years, got tatoos.

  The secret to getting away with it,was to do it when it is no longer a fad. When no on cares anymore! Heck you wouldn't want any attention for being unique now would you? Just like the watchtower. Always sapping every ounce of harmless joy out of anyone that will allow themselves to be subjected to it. Thus creating conformity of mind and reverse peer presure. The rest is a peice o Cake!
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

  1. jw
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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Oh don't worry JK ,I caught up in the fun department, that is, after the bothers used me as a scapegoat for the sins and inequities of their own sons and daughters. With, my dad's utmost help and permission in a public way. I could write a book about the outrageuos and evil things done by those pointing a finger at me. They made my life, feel like Tabloid fodder.

  Tabloid pressure works both ways, just like shunning. They are both two edged swords. The only difference is, most printed stuff in tabloids is made up of rubbish...... while 98% of all the vile things, written about the Watchtower, on this board, is true. Hows our bad news board, doing for you guys in Crooklynn? Are we getting under your skin? I sure hope so! You deserve it.

  Give me my family back, the twenty years you took from me and 100 million dollars and we'll call it square. What d'ya say? No wait, I just consulted with Dr. Evil, he says "a billion" in todays money. I sure hope you have some left over, after your finished paying for thousands of pedophile suits.

  It was an awful, hopeless, and unfulfilling life growing up this way. Every single rule was followed, and there were no rewards for anything. People with such a heavy hand, ought to be extremly wary, that they don't fall out of line. I'll be waiting like a Roman emporer at the colloseum, to trumpet their inequity, and hail their downfall. Speaking of the Colloseum ( Back to assembly fun) For me, the good old days that wern't. Party On ! Sorry for the misplaced rant it just came out.
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

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  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  Glad to see, all that spiritual instruction was touching the inner core of your being JK. Just kiddin. I'd hate to see what you'd have done if you didn't get all that spiritual food. WWIII maybe.

  I know this shit was goin on all the time, but I was always looking through the glass window with a pressed nose. They bound up loads which I was unable to bear. I'm still seething on account of it. To this day I could tell my folks of horrific things witness kids I knew did, and it would be met with a yawn. They would say something like " Wer'e not talking about them, wer'e talking about you". or, " your'e a fanatic" or, " If its that bad in Jehovah's org. just imagine how bad it is in Christendom." It was hopeless and enfuriating, an awful way to grow up! .... and it still is. For what? Just plain effin stupid!
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Jesus, Descender! If I ever had that kinda fun, I'd still be going to assemblies today. Sounds more like you were all on a world tour of descension. I don't blame you.

  Everyone I ever knew, acted piously. You couldn't break a twig in the forest, and get away with it. Of course, they were no better than anyone else. I wonder how some could listen to endless hours of spiritual instruction and do the opposite. If that wasn't enough, then the bothers would ask you to go on feild service on Saturday.

  Heck, I can't blame anyone that didn't go though. After all, if I woke up on a Saturday after having a good screw with some unknown witness girl, and was nursing a hangover, I wouldn't go either. There just wasn't one little prick, that would ever cut me any slack. Now they have to deal with the devil.

  If I brought up stuff, like the real goings on at assemblies, I would never be beleived and would be blacklisted.

  If I did the things other kids did. I would not only be beleived, but punished to the full extent of theocratic witness law. ( If beheading were only possible) I despise elders for this, while protecting there own delinquent misfits and acting like insufferable, riteous hippocrates. My parents took all my power away, and assisted the elders wherever they could, to make sure it remained that way.

  There's those that have a relatively nice existance of being an aloof witness, and those that suffer endless blows from fanatical egotists that are deluded in reality. I am a poster boy for the latter.
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  Remember when assemblies were fun?

  by Aphrodite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just remembered when i was a kid and we would go to the assembly, it was fun because we got to buy new clothes and put extra effort into looking good.

  when we would get there you could save your seats and even save some for your friends, then go off looking for them.. i used to love our circuit assembly because of the food.

  it was at the assembly hall and there was a big kitchen, some of my favourite brothers worked in that kitchen, sometimes i was allowed to go in and help.

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  Tyrone van leyen

  I've heard the assemblies that preceded the ones I grew up with were marathons of agony, lasting several long days of the most boring catatonic drivel ever espoused. I remember having to wear my vest and tie along with my jacket in the bleachers dieing of heat prostration. As the years progressed I started to take leaves of absence during the sessions and liked it too much till one day, I just never went again.

  I was always in amazement, that when someone on the podium would say something like " Isn't the Watchtower, the greatest magazine in the world? The whole stadium, and not one hand, would not be clapping. No dissention at all! Total agreement on everything including substandard accomodation. By the end of the day, your whole soul was screaming to get the hell out of there. The watchtower always had to overdue their brainwashing. It was the most important thing of all. Some fools were actually taking notes. They always hyped the big drama.

  This had to be the poorest quality lip synching, stage set, phoney rubbish I have ever had the displeasure of laying my weary eyes upon. Anyone involved in it were like effin rock stars. In the real world, they wouldn't last a day in a high school production of The Three Little pigs. I hated every stinkin minute of it, and actually bought my first pack of smokes at a convention. There were no girlfreinds. Not in my world. The elders and my father would have none of it. Well now look what ya got fools!